Monday, November 16, 2009

Can you see me now?

Thanks to get real for this scan of Jake Gyllenhaal from the lastest issue of InStyle. Jake's almost-modeling glasses and discussing his history of poor vision and his involvement with New Eyes for the Needy, which helps people get glasses in developing countries, as well as the United States.



Jake is passionate about the subject and did this video for the cause last year:



Though Jake is committed to helping get glasses to people in need, he hasn't been spotted wearing glasses himself. We'll keep an eagle eye out.




In other news, there's a report that Jake will host the December 5th episode of Saturday Night Live. Can it be true - will Jake actually be seen promoting Brothers? It's the weekend the movie opens, as if we need to remind you.



Who could forget Jake's first hosting gig, in January of 2007. Will we get more singing?



Rumored musical guest 50 Cent has a couple of Jake connections. For one, Jake drove future brother-in-law Peter Sarsgaard crazy by blasting "Candy Shop" every day while driving to the Jarhead set. Secondly, Brothers director Jim Sheridan helmed Get Rich or Die Tryin', which was loosely based on the rapper's real life. Maybe Jake and 50 can do a warped Brothers/Get Rich skit!



We'll keep you updated for official confirmation. Maybe Natalie will make a cameo! She and Jake and 50 Cent can all do a rap together.




(Photos courtesy of IHJ.)

84 comments:

UltraViolet said...

Bringing over this form the last post - thanks, Monica. From the comments on Film Experience:

Brothers (Coming Home from Afghanistan) isn't terrible, but Portman will not enter the Best Actress race with this. She is good, but not Oscar good. If you like Jake (and I do), you will love him in this, and Tobey gives a strong, disturbing performance. The whole cast is great, actually, and well directed--one of the little girls in it is amazing.

BTW, Portman's hair and makeup are all wrong--the character is supposed to be a hottie, but she looks too flawlessly gorgeous (the opposite of de-glam) throughout, unlike Carey Mulligan, who just looks like a pretty smalltown girl in this.


Let's hope we start to hear more comments and reviews.

FL said...

Too. much. news! Overload! Overload!

Goddamn! That InStyle pic of him is beautiful.

Chica said...

That picture of Jake is just gorgeous!! Thanks Get real and thanks UV for posting it!

Anonymous said...

The InStyle pic is just stunning and sexy.

IDK, I get a distinct small-town wife feeling from Natalie's look and performance, I think's she's just fine. :)

Nicole said...

The InStyle pic is just beautiful. Thanks for posting it.

UltraViolet said...

Yes, many thanks to get real for the scan. It is a beautiful picture. And poor Jake - bumping into walls!

Has anyone seen the Brothers ad where they refer to the leads as the Best or Most promising Actors of their generation? I've seen a lot of references to it on twitter but I don't think I've seen that version.

Natalie is too blonde for my preference in the movie. But thatone shot of her, on the Brothers site, where she's crying (it's at the beginning of one of the "transitions") is just gorgeous.

Anonymous said...

Anne & Jake filming today, according to twitter

Jake Gyllenhal and Anne Hatheway are on my football field right now.

bobbyanna said...

Thanks, get real, great picture!
He looks very sexy.

Anonymous said...

I love the picture, but I can't see that Jake would wear eyeglasses very often. At one point, I recall he was photo'd wearing contacts,several years ago but I haven't noticed that lately. It is possible he may have had corrective surgery and now only wears glasses for reading.

Tweety said...

Thanks for the scan get real, he looks beautiful. I wish he would wear his specs in public!

We will have to keep our eyes and ears open for Jake the week leading up to his SNL appearence. I assume he will be doing some talk shows in NY that week hopefully.

Office of Nancy Pelosi said...

Squeee!! The glasses are his! He must wear them when not in public and wears his contacts and prescription sunglasses when out I assume. Too bad, as the pic posted of him wearing glasses in this post from Proof shows that he look damn sexy! Thanks so much get real.

I know we are waiting for official confirmation about his SNL appearence but I think it's a safe bet that he will, the date fits.

The comments on Film Experience is encouraging, we need more, thanks!

get real said...

You are welcome everyone! :)

It is a gorgeous pic and you must see it when the December issue hits stands. That should hopefully be in the next week. I happened to get a free subscription so that is how I got it so early. Jake looks so stunning and the color of his hair and glasses are beautiful. You just want to run your fingers through that hair and snap off the specs....um, is it hot in here. ;p Reese gets those lucky honors!

Jake back on SNL..OMG?!? That would be fantastic. Although I do want to see him on the red carpet at the premiere's with Tobey and Natalie. Hopefully there will be an LA and a NYC premiere for him to be able to attend one of them.

UV, great review from Nate at Film Experience. I really like his reviews and I follow his Twitter.

As FL said, news overload...love it!

Chica said...

If there is a NY premiere for Brothers, I am so there!!! It would be great if we could manage to hang out at the NY premiere together Get real along with Sass if possible!

bobbyanna said...

Awww! I'd LOVE to join you all in NYC for the movie and even for SNL. It would be fun. Don't know if I can get there, tho.

Tweety said...

kday146: OMG so they're filming a movie at my high school w/ Anne Hathaway & Jake Gyllenhaal!!!! =O So they're like 10 mins. away from me!

bobbyanna said...

I just thought some people might be interested in this. FYI on how to get tickets for SNL:

"Stand-by tickets are distributed at 7am on the 49th st. side of 30 Rockefeller Plaza on the mornings of the tapings. You may choose a stand-by ticket for either the 8pm dress rehearsal or the 11:30pm live taping. Aside from minimal, necessary breaks, all stand-by line members must remain in line at all times. Stand-by tickets are limited to one per person and are issued on a first-come, first-served basis. NBC staff reserves the right to revoke or not issue any ticket to anyone in line if proper procedures are not followed. Please arrive no later than 7:15pm for the dress rehearsal or 10:45pm for the live show. A stand-by ticket does not guarantee admission and no one under the age of 16 will be admitted."

A person would have to BE in line before 7 AM!

20 Questions said...

This Saturday, Nov. 21, Moviefone is excited to host Natalie Portman, Jake Gyllenhaal and Tobey Maguire for an Unscripted interview where they'll be asking each other questions submitted by you. Ask them anything you'd like, just make sure you do it before Thursday, Nov. 19 (don't forget to include your first name and where you live). Then check back here on Monday, Nov. 30 to see if your question made the cut. Good luck!

http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2009/11/16/ask-brothers-stars-natalie-portman-jake-gyllenhaal-tobey-maguire/

Carla said...

Thanks so much, Get Real. The picture is absolutly stunning.

Jake at SNL again - fantastic news (and fingers crossed that it is true!) His first appearance is already legendary - lets hope he will be able to surprise us again!

Someone has posted a first question on Moviefone....:-)

Anonymous said...

The last Saturday Night Live was one of the 'worst" they have done in a long time. But after having worked with Jake one time..this time it should be easier for them to write hopefully better scripts than they have recently (except for the Taylor Swift one..which did go well overall).

suvee said...

Oh, that In Style picture is killing me! What a tease he is, with those specs tantalizingly perched on his forehead.....
Wonder if he would be surprised by how sexy some of us think Jake in Glasses is? :)

Thanks so much get real!

shoe89 said...

the brothers website has been updated again and it features the kiss between jake and natalie. jake looks so adorable in it.

Paula said...

What a stunning and sexy shot of Jake, thank you Get real! I love this look on Jake, yum!!

I don't know if he can top his appearence on SNL from '07. I'm looking forward to his appearence on SNL, I hope it's confirmed soon.

Thanks for the link 20 Questions!

UltraViolet said...

I see the usual Rhodes Scholars are lining up to ask questions. Let's hope they get some good questions in there.

Jake schedule confusion continues - lots of tweets about him being on Jimmy Kimmel on 12/3. Which puts him in L.A. for a premiere, if there is one. But not in NYC for SNL.

UltraViolet said...

Oh, and thanks for the info, shoe89. I fear they are showing just about everything that happens between Jake and Natalie in the movie. But it's still fun to see.

shoe89 said...

yeah but i feel like that's a crappy yet brilliant marketing strategy to get people to see the movie. LoL i saw the original and there isn't some affair between Tommy and Grace. i feel like they should have gotten a different clip from the movie instead of the kiss that they keep showing in every promotion.

UltraViolet said...

Be careful about spoilers, shoe89 :)

Things could be different in this version, but they are probably just baiting the audience. I agree - they need a different clip. But maybe they will surprise us!

shoe89 said...

sorry about that!!!!! maybe they will surprise us...i love and hate surprises.

Monica said...

Another coment: IMDB
Actress (8-yr-old Bailee Madison, a phenom!) Nat Port called her at the screening, "...a little genius!"

thanks, get real and UV!

UltraViolet said...

Thanks, Monica. The reviews are a slooow trickle.

And don't worry, shoe. I think most people know the basics - just wanted to make sure you didn't go too far into plot details :)

Sheba baby said...

I was away from my computer most of yesterday, look at all the goodies that I have to catch up on!

That sly, sexy look with his glasses placed just so, THUD! And the picture is in b&W which makes it even more stunning, thank you so much get real!

I hope the news about SNL is true, his appearence last time is classic. Kimmel, meh. But as you pointed out UV, JK is on the West coast, won't he need time to rehearse fro SNL, at least a week? It would make sense for him to do a NY talk show.

Most of those questions on moviefone are beyond lame. People that have seen Brothers are really raving about Baille, I can't wait until the reviews from the critics start coming out.

Sheba baby said...

I just thought of something: Kimmell is taped, usually the same day but I bet he arranged to have his segment to be taped a few days earlier. Time for him to fly to NY for SNL rehearsals!

Anonymous said...

Rob Pattinson is People magazine's "Sexiest Man Alive." Figures. Twilight's sequel is about to open.

FL said...

Kiki in PopSugar

On her ex, Jake Gyllenhaal: "It would be nice to see him, but we’re not good friends."

Josie said...

I can stare at that picture of Jake from In Style all day, breathtaking. I would love to see him wearing his glasses, i think they look sexy.

Jake should be done with filming right around the time Brothers premieres so I assume that he will be able to do SNL along with any other talk shows.

I left my question to Jake, Natalie and Tobey on that moviefone site. I hope Lionsgate doesn't think that is the audience for their movie based on some of the "questions", they sound like they are from some ten year olds.

But then again the way they have chosen to promote this film they shouldn't be surprised. Don't get me started on their Brothers facebook or tweets.

It doesn't sound like Kristen has gotten over Jake 100% yet and who would?

FL said...

It doesn't sound like Kristen has gotten over Jake 100% yet and who would?

Not necessarily. I'm sure she was asked if she still sees/has seen/talked to him and her response reflects that.

I'd like to see some of the exes I'm not good friends with as well.

agent_krycek said...

In all honesty I think Jake and KiKi moved in very different directions in their personal life after the split, Jake's very much a homebody, and KiKi much more of a party girl, I honestly doubt they have very much in common these days, apart from a shared romantic history.

That In Style picture is gorgeous

UltraViolet said...

A very funny cartoon about Super Mario Brothers and Jake. Trust me - just click!

Oscar the Grouch said...

Just dropping by to let you all know that your man Jake will appear on Sesame Street on Dec.4th.

BTW, that's an awful pcture of him!

Bette said...

Wow! That new eyes pic is hot.

Bette said...

Also little interesting tidbit here:

Jake pic.

You can see this picture larger on the photographers website:

Jake pic bigger.

Click men, and then about the fourth photograph in. I was looking on his website to see if I could find other celebrities I like, and happened to stumble on to that photo. Was a nice surprise. :D

Tweety said...

Hmmm. Does he mean this Sunday night coming up? 11/22 is a bit early for a premiere for a movie coming out on 12/4, I think. The tweet is from NY:

msLAS: covering the red carpet for the Natalie Portman/Tobey Maguire/Jake Gyllenhall movie 'Brothers' on Sunday night..
19 minutes ago from web

FL said...

Gee, I hope someone (Lionsgate) remembers to alert the photographic press, if true.

Monica said...

Twitter:
RossiPR: Back to NYC on Saturday for "BROTHERS" Premiere with Bailes. Get to see "BROTHERS" tomorrow night! Opens December 4th http://pic.gd/23e791
about 15 hours ago from UberTwitter

Sag actor said...

Isn't Jim Sheridan suppose to be in NY on Sunday, 11/22 for a screening? If so than these tweets may be legit. It is a bit early, true but it may be the only time to get everyone together.

bobbyanna said...

"Gee, I hope someone (Lionsgate) remembers to alert the photographic press, if true"

Ya think? ...

Anonymous said...

Kirsten was the one who broke up the relationship - Jake was about ready to film BBM. That really knocked him down. Then after BBM & Jarhead were finished for a year or so they were still seeing each other on and off but then it was finally over. I do rem. him saying one time he felt they were still friends. Jake has found the type of relationship he was looking for & don't know too much about Kirsten is doing. Haven't seen anything about her rock star boyfriend for a while tho did see she was out partying not too long ago, but do think that isn't quite the same as it use to be.

FL said...

Good god, what the hell is Lionsgate doing?

So there may be a screening that's also a red carpet premiere?

And it may be Saturday but might be Sunday?

Disorganization/crap film promotion thy name is Lionsgate.

suvee said...

Disorganization/crap film promotion thy name is Lionsgate.

Just my 2¢..... but I don't think Lionsgate ever had any intention of doing right by Brothers. I think they assumed it was a nice little film, good, but not great..... and doomed to poor box office because it would be seen as an adult "war" drama. You know, the kind of film American audiences have shown very little interest in seeing of late. And the early critical gushing over Precious just made it that much easier for them to put Brothers on the back burner.

Shame on them...... they should have had more faith (and guts)!

Extra said...

Man, I wish Jake would just wear his glasses in public just once, Please??? He looks smokin hot in that photo.


That cartoon strip about Jake and Super Mario brothers was funny UV, LOL!

Lionsgate's promotion of Brothers is embarrassing IMO, and I agree Suvee: They had no plans to promote this movie the way it should. The war theme spooked them and they only got the ball running when some critics wonderd why it was being ignored.

Curious to see if there will be a screening this Sunday in NY.

thedabara said...

I have attended SAG screenings in NYC, and they have often occurred
within a week or two of a film's release. They are a separate activity from a red carpet event such as a premiere, but I certainly agree that the marketing and promotion of this film has been done very poorly.

UltraViolet said...

Cool find on that photo/photographer, Bette!

And sigh - I really hope this isn't true:

but from what i hear, jake won't be doing interviews.. just natalie and tobe

Maybe Jake is working and coming in late, so he won't be able to do longer interviews? I can't imagine him not talking to some people on the red carpet.

In news that's more fun, Jake encounter:

OMG I'm dying over here

I just got a text from DH, it was a picture of him with Jake Gyllenhal! OMFG. then he sent me a video fro his phone. He's eating lunch with him and Anne Hathaway (who has her black lab there) and he said they're so nice! I said GIVE HIM A KISS FROM ME. ugh.


Then further down:

I keep hearing stories on how cool JG and RW are to everyone, which makes me love them even more!

You need to upload the pic so we can see!


Yes, she does! Hee.

UltraViolet said...

Oh, and that Kirsten quote about Jake makes more since when you realize they asked her to comment on a series of photos of herself through the years. There was one of her and Jake from the premiere for TDAT, one of those fake snow pics. So the context of her statement gives it a little more clarity, I think. It seemed sort of random before I saw this.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Kirsten's comment was fairly innocent, and the media blew it out of proportion. Thanks for the link.

Chica said...

The person that tweeted about covering the red carpet thingy on Sunday, isn't clear on how and why she will be covering the event. From reading and following her tweets, she is an actress/writer, nothing about being involved with the media. She could be a freelance paparazzi/journalist but she doesn't mention that in her tweets, strange.

Not saying that it's not going to happen but you would think that if there is a screening in NY and Sheridan is suppose to be there as well you would think that Lionsgste would be tweeting about it or add it to there facebook.

I would love to go but I have no idea where it's being to be at , just the date. Maybe we will get more info in s few days but i'm totally puzzled and pissed off at the way this film is being promoted.

Also, that moviefone Q&A thing is just cheesey IMO. A film of that caliber, cast and director shouldn't be promoting a film like Brothers like that. That is something the cast of New Moon would do and I don't even think they are doing anything like that.

If I was in charge of promoting this film, I would have them do maybe the Daily Show and the Today show and something like The Charlie Rose show or Tavis Smilley, both on PBS. Print: The New York Times and the L.A. Times and Washington Post (Tobey already did a interview with the L.A. Times). I would have the avoid the rest of the talk shows, too late for Jake and Kimmel and I have a feeling that he may do more, but if it was up to me, no. SNL is different And I do hope we get confirmation.

Natalie is doing the View which is fine.

Just my two cents.

Monica said...

People Sexiest Men Alive:
3º Jake Gyllenhaal:
"Jake is the kind of guy who can do a spot-on impression of someone you work with that will make you giggle," raves Brothers costar Natalie Portman about the 28-year-old. "He plays guitar and has a great voice. Kids and dogs love him. He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend. He's perfect. Too bad he's ugly."

Carla said...

Thanks Monica! Love me some Natalie - "Too bad he´s ugly"..:-))

But why did they use a picture from some years ago?

Congrats to Johnny Depp! I am happy they did not choose the toothless vampire.

Chica, I agree with your comments concerning "Brothers" especially with this:

"Maybe we will get more info in s few days but i'm totally puzzled and pissed off at the way this film is being promoted."

Office of Nancy Pelosi said...

Love Natalie's quotes about Jake, she is so funny! I don't know why People used a photo that I think is at least four years old, he has taken recent pics that they could have used.

I love Depp, congratulations! Thank God the fanged one didn't win and I'm glad Jake made the list, he hasn't had a film out in two years and he still rates!

Don't get me started on Lionsgate...

I love reading things like that about Jake, thanks UV.

Anonymous said...

If i rem. correctly - the vampires in Twilight don't have fangs - and in the sunlight they sparkle.
People mag. is starting to move Jake up there even tho an older picture used. It won't be Johnny next year and not Ryan so...
unless someone suddenly comes on the scene and they want to put on the newcomer think he's got a pretty good chance.

Josie said...

#3 is pretty high up on the list, not bad at all! He may finally make it next year with Pop opening.

Depp is a great choice, I always liked him. "Too bad he's ugly", ha, ha, I love Natalie!

Monica said...

That brazilian critic will see Brothers on friday.
She is a member of the HFPA.

UltraViolet said...

I don't think the list is in order. Loved Natalie's blurb on Jake - nice job, Ms. Portman! Too bad People didn't use a better picture. I wonder if the magazine photo is different?

Apparently there was a Brothers screening in London:

Saw Brothers today. Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire & Natalie Portman: what a dream team! Full review in next issue of movieScope

Josie said...

So the list is not in order, hopefully Jake is at least in the top ten.

I have to agree with People's choice this year, the first time in awhile! Love Natalie's bit on Jake. Thanks for the link UV, the reviews should start trickling in.

Monica said...

In Contention

As for the film itself, well, I wasn’t as impressed as Pete Hammond was, but I do think it fits nicely in what has become a great trio of Middle East war films this year. I was less enthusiastic about Tobey Maguire’s performance than I was by Jake Gyllenhaal’s more natural portrayal. In fact, it seems that every time I see Gyllenhaal in something, I’m reminded of how underrated he is as an actor.

bobbyanna said...

Thanks, Monica! I'm glad people are finally starting to appreciate what a fine actor Jake truly is!

Congrats Johnny Depp, if it wasn't Jake, I'm glad (relieved, even!:))it was JD!

bobbyanna said...

I forgot. The thing that most intrigued me about Natalie's comments, was when she said Jake plays the guitar and he sings and has a wonderful voice. Damn.

Chica said...

Thanks UV and Monica for the links. Always thought that Jake has been underrated as an actor. Comments from people who have seen it so far are really liking Jake's performance.

And more raves for Bailee!

FL said...

msleamichele: Enjoying the beautiful day, then off to a screening of 'Brothers' tonight! 8 minutes ago from Tweetie

So while I'm at home watching Glee with Lea Michele, Lea Michele will be off at a screening of Brothers.

What's wrong with this picture?

Tweety said...

themahatma: My girlfriend just served bread to Anne Hathaway and Jake Gylenhaal. What the fuck.
26 minutes ago from Twikini

christinalynn92: today i met jake gylenhaal and ed zwick, and got accepted to penn state. it was a good day.
about 2 hours ago from


Love what I'm hearing about Brothers and Jake's performance so far!

suvee said...

I absolutely loved Natalie's sweet, funny, affectionate description of Jake. Especially this....

Kids and dogs love him.

The two best judges of character in the world..... 'cause you can't fool them. :)

Thanks for the In Contention link, monica. Nice to read the compliment about Jake's acting.

And of course, I never tire of hearing RL observations about how cool J & R are. Thanks for the link, UV.

Monica said...

Brothers Advance Screening
Where: Boston, MA
When: Tuesday, December 1st, 2009 at 7:30pm

UltraViolet said...

Not sure about that site, Monica - seems like kind of a scam. Though I'm sad there will be an advance screening here and I won't be at it!

Thanks for the link earlier, about Jake's performance. Like hearing that :)

I guess it is a premiere in NYC - link to an auction for passes to the movie and the after party:

You are purchasing this item from: Aclu Of Southern California, a non tax-exempt organization.

80% of this auction item will benefit ACLU of Southern California.

"2 Tix & After Party Passes to the NYC Premiere of War Drama, Brothers, on Nov. 22, Starring Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire & Natalie Portman"

UltraViolet said...

Forgot to say that I'd rather have seen RPattz as the SMA. I don't find him sexy at all, but I find repeat winners boring. And in the same way I think People missed the boat by not choosing Jake in 2005, I think they missed it here, too.

It's all meaningless, of course. But the fun aspect is catching the zeitgeist. I really don't think Johnny Depp is the man of the moment or year.

UltraViolet said...

Forgot to add this from the auction:

The winning bidder and special guest will join the intimiate New York City Premiere of the film at The School of Visual Arts on Sunday, November 22 at 7:30 p.m. This special event is sponsored by Details and DKNYMen.

You and your lucky guest will also attend the after party at Abe & Arthur's!

Starring Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire and Natalie Portman, the story follows the journey of two siblings. When a decorated Marine goes missing overseas, his black-sheep younger brother cares for his wife and children at home—with consequences that will shake the foundation of the entire family.

agent_krycek said...

I've no problem with Mr Depp winning, when you hear about stuff like him dressing as Capt Jack and spending time reading to sick children at Great Ormond Street Hospital, that's pretty damm sexy to me.

I suspect Dastan might just win it next year

Chica said...

The school for Visual Arts is an interesting place for the movie premiere. Don't have the cash for the auction bid but I may stop by there on Sunday, thanks for the info UV!

FL said...

Yet another clip from Brothers.

This one is Natalie/Carey-centric.

Since I've seen the original, it's nice to finally know which role Carey is playing.

Chica said...

Thanks FL!

The screening will most likely be a the SVA at the westside building since they have a theater there. The other SVA building on 3rd ave doesn't.

UltraViolet said...

The Brothers site also now features the balloon/dinner table scene as one of the transitions.

I wonder if those clips work better for people on PCs. The dialogue is always ahead of the video for me.

Apparently, Jeffrey Wells is seeing Brothers tonight. We'll see if he can say his opinion or if there will be an embargo. He'll probably give a hint about his reaction one way or another, at least.

FL said...

The Brothers site also now features the balloon/dinner table scene as one of the transitions.

I think I could watch Jake's reaction shots all day. His face is turned and partially obscured yet I could feel the reaction he was trying to portray. I love watching him act.

bobbyanna said...

Thanks FL, for the clip, and chica, thanks for the info on the SVA. A new place for me to explore when I'm in town.:) Hope you get a chance to go over there on Sunday.

Yes, UV, it'll be interesting to see how Wells reacts. Sounds like this is adhering to the orginal storyline. If I recall, Tobey's character has some powerful scenes, but he doesn't have as much screen time as Jake's character.

Whatever. Whether he gets nominated for anything or not, I'm just glad more people are recognizing Jake's work.

Thanks monica for the links, and tweety for the tweets, and OMG. Seems like a lot of info hitting! I love it.:)

Anonymous said...

I love watching him act.

IAWTC

IHJ said...

IHJ has the color scan of the In Style photo. It's more stunning in color :

http://www.iheartjakemedia.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0

FL said...

*THUNK*

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Does anyone have the smelling salts?

Stun. Ning.

Thank for the alert, IHJ.

UltraViolet said...

Yes, thanks for the alert, IHJ. Stunning enough that the photo got its own post - well, along with a new Brothers clip.